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Sabtu, 23 Februari 2008

Re: [ACWDYG ] Re: Need help with positive thinking...


There are probably more people who has contemplated suicide than statistics will ever record. I have always been pretty level headed ...except when it comes to selecting a mate.....obviously <G>
But there were times when my head would sort of get out of kilter and I'd be eyeing a bridge abutment and think...just run into it at full speed and get away from it all. Then my inner Spirit would interfere and my children, my mother, and brothers would come to mind and I could see their faces and all I could do was weep and drive on to work.. Then I'd get to laughing thinking..Idiot!...with your luck you'd probably just bust yourself up and spend the rest of your life in a wheel chair or in an iron lung.....or kill some innocent person...you better straighten out and fly right..and pray for a better solution. One day in about 1980 I desperately put the problem on the good ole breakfast table ..a whole hand full of it and prayed to be given the wisdom or guidance to help me, that I couldn't seem to do it on my own.
Went to work that day and a total stranger came into my office on business and amazingly in the course of coversation she mentioned her husband was a heavy drinker and that she had been to Alanon and it really helped get her head on front wise. Ended up that she gave me the phone number and while my head will never be totally frontwards, its a whale of a lot better! ..I haven't thought suicide for 28 years!!
I'm not saying one HAS to go to a twelve step program, but it's a lot cheaper (free except maybe a dollar when you have it and take a dollar if you need it<G>) than a Shrink..bless their hearts they do good, my son-in-law is one, but some of us couldn't afford one when we needed one, and I don't think *any counciling could have been better for me than Alanon.
Just my personal opinion. love, Lee....GWG

---- Jennifer Thomas <kookie123427@yahoo.com> wrote:
> If someone has not been there (suicidal or depression) then they have no right (and shouldn't) judge those who have or are. It is a deep abyss that can either suck you further down into the blackness or cause you to fight your way back up to the surface. I had no one to talk to because of shame and fear. Alanon, prayer, and the love for my children saved me from going any further. I am sorry for the loss of your sister. I hope this group offers you as much support as possible, as they do me.
>
> Glenda Long <glndlong@yahoo.com> wrote: Hi Jennifer.
> I understand totally what you are talking about. I took my attempted at suicide a lot further--though right now I don't like thinking about it--can't even believe I took it that far--It scares me to think about that--it was a long time coming--but I almost succeeded in my attempt---but for the Grace of God--I would not be here.
> So nothing anyone could say about depression or panic could shock me--My whole family has dealt with severe depression. My sister who died about a year ago-was probably the strongest of all of us--I leaned on her--I hung out with her--I admired her and It is so hard living without being able to talk to her sometimes--
> Love, Glenda
>
> Jennifer Thomas <kookie123427@yahoo.com> wrote:
> This is true, Glenda. I think of panic attacks as some type of loss of "control" for me. I too do not judge someone going through depression or having anxiety because I have had both and been suicidal - although did not attempt it. I know the deep dark feeling of depression and devastation. I never in my life imagined that I would be there. It was scary and only my children and praying for G-d to take this feeling away worked. I had the razor, I was in the tub and I was picturing the water turning pink while softly running the razor across my wrist. Only my prayers and my love for my children pulled me through that time. It was the scariest thing I could ever imagine. I do not judge because it was not a place I ever thought I would be. I also worked with mental illnesses and now work special ed. I guess that's my place for now.
>
> Glenda Long <glndlong@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I agree Jennifer. In my first marriage, I had a counselor who told me that. Sometimes when I feel anxious--I force myself to get out around people or to go shopping or something to make myself realize that I am the one in control over this panic. I have learned that this panic does no good at all--that is not to say I will never panic again--but for a long time I thought they were some type of chemical disorder or something. Now I notice some of it is what I am thinking about and when I start thinking that way, I try to get up--move around--change what I am doing---etc...
> However, I would never sit in judgement of someone going through something like that or something like severe depression, either--because I know how devastating they can ultimately be. No one who tries to hurt themselves or check out in this life is thinking with a full deck--at all.
> I think someone who is going through something like that needs help from people who are stronger at that time--Whether they choose to accept that help or not--is up to them. I don't think help is needed from someone that resents giving it--Their words are better left unsaid.
> Love, Glenda
>
> Jennifer Thomas <kookie123427@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I too have had panic attacks or anxiety out in public. They were terrifying. I thought I was going to pass out or throw up. As my personal situation improved they faded, but it took a number of years to ease up. Once in a while I have them now, but I can feel them coming and take steps to reduce them. I still get panicky in crowds; I cannot be anywhere where I cannot leave when I need to or get outside away from people, just in case. I still get sick, physically, at times when I am out. But most of this passes quickly. It is a control thing, I believe. That we feel panicked when we are out of control of our situation; whether physically by where we are, or emotionally by what we are thinking. Improve your situation in life and I believe your panic attacks will ease up.
>
> robinson_marie2002 <robinson_marie2002@yahoo.com> wrote: Hi Glenda,
>
> I have had sooo many panic attacks...for me i just reassure myself
> and others that they will pass. Mine usually only last 10 mins or so
> and pass on their own. Sometimes if i can i will drink warm milk and
> do the butterfly hug during one. Sometimes they come on suddenly and
> other times when i am feeling maybe one is coming on i put on
> relaxing music.
>
> Marie
>

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